The boy has still got it. I really hope he settles at Hull. It's been a tough few years for him and I know alof of it is self-inflicted but I'd like to see him have a good run.

looks to be the saving grace of 'ULL

Couldn't give a stiff one, about him

He left 2 years ago

Let others worry about this barmpot

couldn't care less if gleeson never played another game of rugby league, why should you be bothered about a player who never even wanted to play for warrington

Couldn't care less about 'it'.

George Best - flawed genius
Alex Higgins - flawed genius
Martin Gleeson - prat

My thoughts too. No need for bitterness towards him IMO.

I think the bitterness about Gleeson from our fans reveals the fact that they were upset when he left. You don't get all this hate from Wire fans towards say Stuart Reardon, when he left we didn't think he was good enough for our team any more so we moved him on and forgot about him. But Gleeson - who played the best rugby of his career in the first half of his spell with us, and ended up being worth a nice transfer fee plus a decent player as part of the deal, when we sold him. But he has joined the ranks of guys like Harris and Fozzard in that Wire fans go on about him like girls do about their exes that they can't get over and continually have to bad mouth when they are gone.

I agree that we are better off without him, even though I've always been a Gleeson fan, I think we had him in his best form, and then regardless of any conjecture about his 'off field' lifestyle, just judging his form on the pitch I think TS cashed in on him at just the right time. He has still 'got it' as a player, but he only shows it in patches these days, and that started from 2007-2008 his last two years with us, when from 2005-06 he was consistently the business. TS had been with him all winter before he came, at the World Cup, when Gleeson did play well, but he moved him on very soon after he arrived, maybe TS realised that we were cashing in with a very good deal on a player who had gone past the peak of his career and had moved from 'very good' to 'a handful on his day'.

Also regarding the off field stuff, you sometimes see with players who had the tendency to be controversial right through their careers, that when they reach a point where they have to face up to the fact they are past their best as a player, they go on a downward spiral in terms of behaviour....look at how John Hopoate became a farce in the later years of his NRL career, and Stan Collymore and Gazza in the latter days of their footballing careers. Maybe Paul Cooke has suffered the same thing.

As I said last week, Gleeson is the most talented centre I've seen in a Wire shirt (bareing in mind, the times Davies used to change postions). A very good rugby brain, huge natural talent, not slow either (remember his try at COMS v Aussies in '04) and devastating footwork.

I was a bit peeved when Smith got rid, but Smith's the boss. He lives and dies (coaching wise) by his decisions. Smith could see he had too many issues, and (rightly) got rid. We got more salary cap room, and £100,000. Good business in my eyes....and, as it turns out, the correct decision. Well done Smith.

As I said previously, let's move on. I've no more interest in Gleeson, than I have in, say, Clint Greenshields. Great talents both, but let's concentrate on our own.

The one (tiny) thing that irks me, is Monday. I hope he doesn't get abused by some of our "sillier" fans, as he doesn't deserve it. Yes, maybe he didn't want to sign for us, but he NEVER let us down.

Harris took the Pi$$ out of the club i was glad when we got shut..
Fozzard was a little out of order considering no club would touch him and we took a chance on him.
Gleeson was just moved by TS either because he wasn't in his plans or he saw the deal with Wigan as a good one..

total utter bilge ....give me king over gleeson any day..i.e semi final at widnes.king totally outshone this upstart..never knew gleeson was on the pitch that day..the only thing gleson can brag about was the grand final last season..stop comparing other players to back up a none existant argument you may dream up

Good post, and a fair assessment for the most part, although i think that Saints had probably the best two seasons out of him immediately before he left to you. I think he also left to us (Wigan) for off the field reasons not on the field, with TS making an example of Gleeson, to say to the players he had that you have perform on and off the field or youll be out the door.

He will be a good player for Hull, and is still one of the best centres in SL. Although off the field issues are likely to happen again. (especially with Long in the same team) Finally i think that he should have left Saints for the NRL, where he was very highly rated at the time, that way if he was (and still is) a victim of circumstance he could have started afresh.