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| Lord Tony Smith:Wires71:karetaker:Smiffy27:morrisseyisawire:Smiffy27:
Off the field ... I don't know who really makes the decisions. Not really into sacking people (especially the daft idea of sacking everyone) and would prefer to work with people & the next person in might be worse.. Question. Why should being employed by Warrington Wolves be any different to being employed by any other private sector company? If they worked at IBM, for example, based on performance Fitzpatrick and Chambers would be out of the door by now, as would several of the players and Burgess would be on a competency assessment. But apparently you get a free pass if you work for us? Sorry I haven't a clue about how ruthless IBM is? Might be on dicey grounds for dismissing staff if there was a high percentage of injury within their the workforce. That well know phrase "mitigating circumstances" might be mentioned. So you believe there is mitigation for the way the club as been run for a good number of years now. 20 years of mitigation perhaps. Im not buying injuries as we were poor with a full side out from the get go this year. It is indisputable that we have had the finances and facilities to compete with the top clubs for 20 years and yet failed to establish ourselves as one. We nearly did it under Smith but since then it's been a steady spiral downwards. 1 challenge cup in 13 years for countless millions in full cap spend and big name signings. Whats makes it all the worse is that we are a perennial laughing stock. There should be an outcry of alarm bells ringing around the HJ over the fact that a team, who were only promoted to SL in 2017, are going to win a Grand Final before us given how much we have spent. It’s damning that is. I was saying to the gf (Wire supporter) this weekend, that it's arguable two clubs (HKR & Leigh) who have recently spent time in the Championship have progressed past Warrington.
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| I think over the past 12 or so years we have been chasing the dream of the big one. We have been trying to buy our way to the holy grail by chasing Star players that will be the difference between also rans and the winners. Look at the number of halfbacks (6/7) we have had. Sandow Roberts Brown Widdop Gidley Williams Austin Sneyd Plus probably others I have forgotten.
But when you look at Saints they have stability in a lot of those key positions. Pretty sure Lomax has been at Saints all those 12 years. . The Melbourne storm model was based around the 1,6,7&9.
It looks like we have tried to get the best in some positions and then some other positions have been an afterthought based on what we had left available on the cap.
I think we need to spin it on its head and build the squad around what we have and who we think will be invested in the club long term and then fill in around that with some quality players.
So it is feasible to see a team built around CTW, Lindop, Thewlis x 2, Possibly Wrench, Irwin, Hayes, Thomas, Wood, Walker, Harthill, Ashton etc Some of them might not make the grade but hopefully all do. Then you look at the positions where we need support and fill them with quality players. A few quality forwards and a quality centre. I think we have been approaching this the other way round by playing fantasy RL to try and get top players and then realizing we only have enough money to Sign Matty Russell, Dan Russell, etc
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| Yeah the Fantasy RL model has clearly not worked but doesn't appear that we've learned that lesson. You have to give us credit for the academy, squadbuilder etc - we are producing quality youngsters and that's been work done for well over a decade. We're not going to be able to keep them all (as Wigan will attest to) but we need to make sure we at least give them a solid chance and that is where Whitehead and (possibly) Hartill leaving would be difficult to swallow - especially seeing as they have a golden opportunity to show what they can do at the moment.
I know it's been done to death but Crowther over Hartill beggars belief and it better stop this weekend.
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| ratticusfinch:
Yeah the Fantasy RL model has clearly not worked but doesn't appear that we've learned that lesson. You have to give us credit for the academy, squadbuilder etc - we are producing quality youngsters and that's been work done for well over a decade. We're not going to be able to keep them all (as Wigan will attest to) but we need to make sure we at least give them a solid chance and that is where Whitehead and (possibly) Hartill leaving would be difficult to swallow - especially seeing as they have a golden opportunity to show what they can do at the moment.
I know it's been done to death but Crowther over Hartill beggars belief and it better stop this weekend.
Hartill is not even in the squad for the Hull FC game. Jordy Crowther, Ben Currie, Matt Dufty, Lachlan Fitzgibbon, James Harrison, Toby King, Tom McKinney, Joe Philbin, Sam Powell, Stefan Ratchford, Sam Stone, Marc Sneyd, Rodrick Tai, Jake Thewlis, Josh Thewlis, Luke Thomas, Paul Vaughan, George Williams, Max Wood, Connor Wrench, Luke Yates
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| Oh just sod off Burgess
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| Nigel Wood appointed chair of RL commercial. Seems we can not go backwards fast enough.
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